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Longer note sustain/decay

PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2016 5:19 pm
by Studio4708
We are really enjoying this app. Just one request: can you please increase the length of note decay on Oboe Solo and Clarinet Solo? The sound cuts off so quickly.

Other instruments have long note decay (ie Flute Vibrato).

Thanks!

Re: Longer note sustain/decay

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2016 10:00 am
by John0611
The solo instruments stop to fast because the creator of the sonatina symphonic orchestra said that he preffered the natural decay of the instruments than the synthesized decay

Re: Longer note sustain/decay

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2016 11:46 am
by Alex
That's right, the original samples are this way. Here's the link: http://sso.mattiaswestlund.net

Also, we can never change existing factory instruments, because the user's existing songs would sound different then.

Re: Longer note sustain/decay

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2016 6:33 pm
by Studio4708
Thanks for the replies and the link. I understand the need for the note to have a natural sound decay. Absolutely. However, in playing a piece with the oboe or clarinet, there is often a need to hold the note for a couple of measures. This is impossible to do with Symphonic Oboe Solo and Symphonic Clarinet Solo. Even when you hold down the note (and use a sustain pedal), the note dies right away. As such it is impossible to play certain pieces that have sustained notes.

The Symphonic Flute Vibrato is excellent. The timbre is very realistic and you can sustain the note quite long (which a good flutist can do). But I don't always want to use flute.

The Classical Oboe and Classical Clarinet sounds have endless sustain, but the sound samples themselves are very synthetic and don't sound like acoustic instruments.

There is nothing unnatural about an oboist or clarinetist holding a note for a couple of measures. I wish the Symphonic Oboe Solo and Symphonic Clarinet Solo could do so. Many famous pieces are impossible to play with Music Studio because these instruments cut off so fast. It's a pity as it is otherwise a fabulous app.

Thanks anyway.

Re: Longer note sustain/decay

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2016 8:46 pm
by Bianca

Re: Longer note sustain/decay

PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2016 1:08 pm
by Alex
There is nothing unnatural about an oboist or clarinetist holding a note for a couple of measures. I wish the Symphonic Oboe Solo and Symphonic Clarinet Solo could do so.

Indeed, but we don't have access to sustained oboe/clarinet samples other than the SSO library. That's what Music Studio's sampler is for, you can build your own instruments, for example with the samples from Bianca's link. Here's how:
http://www.xewton.com/musicstudio/doc/?id=14

Re: Longer note sustain/decay

PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 11:01 am
by John0611
You know, you can record the oboe and clarinet then put it on the sampler and loop it

Re: Longer note sustain/decay

PostPosted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 7:00 pm
by LĂșthien
I just noticed this now in MS.

Even though I understand the reason behind it, I find it odd that 'preserving the natural sound decay' takes precedence over 'allowing the musician to decide how long a note should sound' because it is much more limiting. After all, not being able to play notes above a certain length renders an instrument somewhat crippled while sacrificing the natural decay of one particular sample merely makes it sound somewhat less natural. Though, if I listen to comparable woodwind samples found in ThumbJam, they don't seem to suffer that much from being sustained indefinitely.

Because you can now use Thumbjam instruments within MS, that's a good workaround for this issue. I'd say it is worth the investment a few times over. It has a couple of very good samples like string ensemble and cello: though they do loop, it sounds very natural imo.

Re: Longer note sustain/decay

PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:23 am
by Rock73
This is impossible to do with Symphonic Oboe Solo and Symphonic Clarinet Solo. Even when you hold down the note (and use a sustain pedal), the note dies right away. As such it is impossible to play certain pieces that have sustained notes. The Symphonic Flute Vibrato is excellent. The timbre is very realistic and you can sustain the note quite long (which a good flutist can do). But I don't always want to use flute.

Re: Longer note sustain/decay

PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 1:23 pm
by John0611
Just record the different notes, then just loop it in the sampler